Here are all the ways to get your hands on some gold in Crusader Kings 3: Raiding. At a certain point in time, the balance of power shifts from tribal warriors to feudal realms. It's very easy to snowball to great leaps in power. Report. 2 patch. You should modify feudal contracts to give more levies as Castle holdings do not make lots of Gold. It does have an impact when you Feudalizing, which higher development = higher chance of city and temple holdings spawning. ago. Awesome. . Still new to CK3 so I am not even utilizing & min-maxing most of the mechanics. Add -debug_mode to the launch options, then launch the game. 9? I had this too, it only shows when you don't have enough money for some reason, as soon as I had enough money to build a new holding it went away, so don't worry. 2) (Haven't verified but it's how it worked in CK 2) To build a holding type that is already present in the county the county must already have at least one of each holding type present. Obviously, this isn’t incredibly easy to do. Development also doesn't affect tribal holdings, iirc. However, later on, you’ll want to. Workshop Page: Try out our other mods! Dynamic Ward Limit: makes Ward limits scale with learning, instead of. In CK2, nomads can pillage holdings and completely destroy it, meaning that holding (castle, city, temple) is completely gone from the map and only empty land is left. This guide will cover a comprehensive strategy for selecting holdings, counties and buildings for Feudal lords in the 1. Because the real money is going to come from the bishoprics, and what you are raiding the tribal holdings for are prisoners, especially children. Been stuck that way for generations. Level 1 buildings cost 150 Gold. When looking at the first tier of each hold in the game files (aside from tribal) there's this section which I imagine is the method used to prevent tribal cultures from even seeing the option to build other holdings: can_construct_potential = { building_requirement_tribal = no barony_cannot_construct_holding = no }- Added Church holding to St. Revoke all the tribal rulers, hold all the counties personally, make the swap and all the counties are Feudal, then dole them back out. Then to create buildings inside those holdings you will click the holding (or on the map zoom in and click the county, then bottom left blue boxes click on them and you can pick with buildings you would like to build for the holdings. paradoxwikis. Tribal holdings aren't from the Charlemagne DLC, they're just in the 2. At first I thought it was a mod issue, but the problem continued even after disabling everything. Then you just revoke and give duchy titles to that priest and boom. Age of Wonders 4 Empire of Sin Cities: Skylines 2 Crusader Kings 3 Europa Universalis 4 Hearts of Iron 4 Hunter:. Hæsteinn is a fuedal count. 9. Title. The initial post didn't specifically state that the tribal holdings were converting to castles, only that temples and cities were popping up. Back in patch 1. Temples are best for gold AND levies due to giving up to 50% tax and 100% levies at +50 court chaplain opinion. CK3 Dev Diary #55 - Modding improvements CK3 Dev Diary #57 - An eventful summer CK3 Dev Diary #58 - Stre(ss)tching the traits CK3 Dev Diary #59 - Fantastic presets and where to save them. Duke +0. A) If you are feudal B) If you are not. 5: age Adds [amount] of age to [character id], if. 9. as a feudal lord i just sit back relax till i can change my succession laws to something better and start expanding whilst keeping my capital county strong build extra holds if there is space and keep my armys better and. None of my vassals seem to be able to upgrade either, so I have a ton of holdings stuck as a tribal settlement. This government is the rough equivalent of the Iqta government in CK2, though in CK3 it does have a more Feudal bent than it did previously. He will become a tribal lord under you and, after 10 years, he will increase his crown authority and take the decision to become feudal, and convert for free his capital. You should avoid reaching a -100% penalty. You will also need to follow a reformed faith, have 5 Development in your capital, level 2 of Fame, and 70% of all Military and Civic. comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment. I. Hmm might be. It seems like adopting Feudal takes so much more time in CK3 compared to CK2. A guide to playing a Norse Viking, starting from 867. CK3 has quite the selection of graphic medieval diseases. I'll have to double check when I save up. It is very misleading. ck3" to gamestate 7. Get another holding that is tribal or reform your government. Nov 16, 2020. Impatient: can take a decision to immediately advance all their on going scheme if they are above the stress level 1. CK3. Feudal holdings are a lot more valuable and developed than tribal territories, and it takes a significant investment of gold to convert a tribal territory to feudalism. Three goldmines nearby. that is actually not true. ago. Give tribes unique Men at Arms, weaker than feudal ones, but ones that don't all of a sudden require gold when you swap from tribal to feudal. Im imagining I need a cultural tech to do so. Desomega Mar 31, 2015 @ 7:55am. Tribal holdings provide more troops, but less tax. give them to count vassals, they can feudalize using decision for a low cost of prestige and convert all the buildings to feudal ones. If you give someone in your court who is handed a tribal holding they'll adopt Tribal government and can then manage the holding for you. Both let you build tribal settlements in empty areas when playing tribal, and then this mod lets you set up holy orders in those tribes, difference between the two mods being that Tribalism Beyond also lets you upgrade tribal buildings to level 4 and so may be preferable if you want to. Engage in courtly intrigue, dynastic struggles, and holy warfare in mediæval Europe, Africa, the Middle East, India, the steppes and Tibet. And I would not be surprised if this bonus modifier not being applied is actually a bug. Ive been feudal for some time now and been wondering about the tribe and why it's still there. Ranger’s huts. 2. Then there should be a decision available in the holding menu to convert the tribe to a castle. Playing as a Tribal Government and I captured a Castle but wanna change it to a Tribal county/holding. Two decades separate these two pictures. They're unable to build anything. This gets expensive fast for person who holds those tribes, especially since they get no income from them. Yeah, going from tribal to feudal is ridiculously punishing if you haven't done it once before to know EXACTLY what to do. Wrong holding type is very common when using usurpation cb; Tribal invasion - you usurp all holdings in a county that you have sieged. 3) Governor to Vassal Mapping. You can give them their own 1 county court so they don't risk infecting yours. Feudal and Clan rulers can turn them into Castle holdings at the cost of 500 gold; Constructing a Temple holding will raise Fervor by 1 and grant its county title holder 500 Piety regardless of which ruler funded it. This mod is supposed to work with any Overhaul mod, wether GoT or Elder Kings. So if you want Sharukan to become feudal, build for him a hillfort. 80 Badges. 2, the buildings in those holdings are still lost, unlike when you feudalize via decision. Either Build More Tribal Holdings *OR* Tribalism Beyond. In terms of money, build the duchy building that gives +0. Holding effects County effects Realm effects 1 Small Plantations 100 Gold — +0. This would be more historical too. Have a hold feudal titles and tribal titles (e. The process of moving from a tribal to feudal society is actually much easier than it seems. " It depends. Pay attention to which counties you want to grant to your children. Costs a lot of gold though. (CK2: To go feudal on your own, your capital must be a Castle-holding or a Tribal-holding with Hillfort IV. These are some of the results. There can only be one tribe in a province, but it gets +50% income and levy size for each empty slot in the province. Since they're wrong holding type, they don't get income or levies. Baghdad is a second Cairo, except it has 6 Holding slots. I have searched related posts here but they all deal with and empire converting from tribal to fuedal. ; About CK3 Wiki; Mobile viewUpgrading a tribal holding requires 200 gold and 400 prestige. Tribe holdings typically can be upgraded to palisades, war camps, gathering halls, and markets. I think there ought to be an achievement for adding a holding slot to a one-holding province that begins the game as tribal - e. Does this also apply to the Upgraded Tribal Hold (Fortified) so that it converts directly to a Keep? Or does it just downgrade to a Castle? It gets downgraded to level 1 castle. Reply reply Home;I'm doing Pagan run. Independent Tribal rules may settle, becoming Feudal or Clan. If, hypothetically, the first major CK3 DLC was an overhaul / deep improvement of empires, what would you want. I really really miss CK2 tribes, they were kind'a unique compared to feudals, not just a gimped version. I’m guessing this is a bug?. g. )cant build cities or temples or castles anywhere. After you have become feudal though, if you then take over a tribal county it will cost 500 gold to feudalise it. Still strange and probably some kind of bug that should get reported. In order to convert your tribal holdings to proper castles you must first adopt feudalism (also decision in the intrigue interface) which requires legalism level 1. It went pretty stable after and I successfully converted two of my tribal holdings into castles and Praha nearly provides me with 1k troops (I grabed some Castles from Moravia as well) and see Im now even King of Bohemia. We now have this monstrosity. The vassal is a feudal ruler, but got stuck with tribal duchy/county of Gotland/Visby. Optional flags that are assigned to the holding type: flag = tribal can_be_inherited: bool: Can the holding type be inherited. After she died, while my son was 12, he inherited Lower Silesia, becoming the tribal vassal of a Polish High Chief. Don't raid until you can, with your raiders and levies combined, raid the entire holding -- tribal holdings and temples/bishoprics. Arjen_ck2 •. However, the requirements for adopting Feudal ways are extremely hard to get. You will only be able to land her again if your faith allows it, otherwise you could land her son or husband if you want her family to remain holders of the counties. Look for the ID of the barony you want to change (you have to start the game in debug mode and then hover over the barony on the map and the ID is in purple) 8. Tribe holdings have only 4 buildings types of 2 buildings each available, but most buildings benefit the entire Realm. Men at Arms TLDR: Only buy Bowmen. Tribal holdings cannot be constructed. Level 3 buildings cost 340 Gold and a level 2 holding. In this Crusader Kings 3 video, I give you a guide to the tribal government in CK3. Crusader Kings is a historical grand strategy / RPG game series for PC, Mac, Linux, PlayStation 5 & Xbox Series X|S developed & published by Paradox Development Studio. I miss the CK2 system where you could just slap a tribal holding on an empty spot on a county and call it a day. Wrathful: can duel criminals to enforce the punishment. Higher development increases this chance. #1 Raiding (Tribal Only) Tribals are the only ones who can raid and should take advantage of this. Holding Manager Holding Manager Lite Holding Manager Mini All have the same holding management features. How long do you want to spend sieging? Even in a tribal region, an army with siege MAA will siege 2-3 times as fast as one without, and since most CB's cap you combat war score at +50%, having siege MAA is the difference between a 2-year war and a 5-year war. Imprison the pope. How do I build holdings? Make sure you have feudal or clan government. Hi so I started in the earliest playthrough as the count of austria (well what will someday be austria i hope) I have a bishopric holding that isn't giving me anything (wrong holding) so i saved up 500+ ducets to guild a fort. As you can see, if your liege was non-Tribal with Limited Tribal Authority, you’d be able to convert to. It just says something like 'will convert to [building name] when upgraded to a Castle', I don't recall seeing any levels noted. Edit: The mod is called Destroy and convert settlement. Duke -> +2 Domain Limit. If your lord is prestigious, his men will follow him. Pay the cost of gold to convert it to a feudal castle type holding. In the Decisions tab, there is a decision called "adopting feudal ways", it should. 25 Monthly tax — — 2 Trading Posts 150 Gold Crop Rotation +0. Zero penalty that way. The only rulers in CK3 that can change their government are Tribal rulers. 2 [ck3. /2016 às 9:56 #9. You will also need to follow a reformed faith, have 5. Good to know though, so Tribal Holdings' levels are halved when upgraded to castles/cities, then? Roughly, floored so lvl3 -> lvl1. It also requires that you capital holding and not just any holding has level 4 stone hillfort. Originally posted by Falk0: First of you can't turn Tribal holdings into Temples. I was able to purchase a new holding as soon as I got the money to do so. Im imagining I need a cultural tech to do so. Report. So far in CK3, I haven't found any mechanic for destroying a holding, and even if there is an open slot in a newly conquered county, I still can't build a tribal holding there. 103 Badges. If you want to cheese this, reform your religion, border a Feudal nation, swear fealty, and become Feudal, which doesn't require all Tribal innovation, and only needs tribal authority 3. But the real answer it depends - I usually focus on my own domain and turn them into castles and construct income buildings. Easy to form Kingdom of Mali, but hard to reform religion however and you're tribal. I read that you could build tribal holdings in feudal counties but I tested it on a random test run I did. Declaring war against a character's head of faith costs 500 piety if the head of faith is spiritual and 100 piety if they are temporal. For the Castle, this means you see a. ( you can only construct 1. Debasement or . they will be gone. Engage in courtly intrigue, dynastic struggles, and holy warfare in mediæval Europe, Africa, the Middle East, India, the steppes and Tibet. The in-game tooltip breakdown may be confusing, as values are rounded. Holdings will no longer claim that there are a Tribal holding when trying to construct a new holding while not having enough Gold (it was only a UI bug). May 13, 2017; Add bookmark #4 Woifee said: If there is a free slot in the county you can build a tribal holding if you are tribal as well and controll the county yourself. Apparently though from reading online posts and guides, basically the way you kind of have to do it without sacrificing almost all titles/land you have is by: - saving up ridiculous amounts of gold. That way, when you do critizise them, you'll be a mile away, and you'll have their. The tab in the provence window where you build upgrades should show the tribal hldg if you click that it gives the option to upgrade to a feudal it costs 500g per. The succession tab in the realm menu will show you what titles will go to who. To go feudal, a tribal leader must subjugate or conquer land. Good in the capital county. Summon a Dragon; If you have the dragons as your main pantheon, you can pay piety when you are at war to summon a very strong special. Counterfeit). Subscribe. report. On a side note, becoming feudal completely ruined my empire. Whenever I try to construct a new city or temple it says that I can't because of the county has a tribal holding despite that not being the case. Here's how to increase county control and development in Crusader. However a castle holding will never change into a city holding as you asked in your question. Most Vassals will quickly follow in switching if they can. This is the part I hate about CK3 economy. Count +0. CK3 Wiki Active Wikis. Getting the holding with a conquest Cb is way more convenient than a new vassal with a different culture and religion instead of giving territory to some of your. It all comes down to owning one of the "good" counties since there's no real economic mechanics beyond terrain and special buildings. Level 3 buildings cost 340 Gold and a level 2 holding. Age of Wonders 4 Empire of Sin Cities: Skylines 2 Crusader Kings 3 Europa Universalis 4 Hearts of Iron 4 Hunter: The Reckoning Imperator:. Desomega Mar 31, 2015 @ 7:55am. in Ireland or the Isle of Mann) and lose their feudal titles- most prominantly a character with a culture in the "Tribal" tech era. FWIW, when I'm playing as Tribal Government, I've started to just give my castle holdings to my vassals and keep the tribal holdings since I can upgrade the tribal ones. gg]. They should loose out on feudal somewhere in between the 2 start dates (sadly it not. September 8, 2020 By Jason Faulkner During the early game of Crusader Kings 3, especially if you start at 867, having a Tribal government can be advantageous. If you hold the county yourself it will cost you 500 gold to feudalise it and all of its buildings will be destroyed. There's a mod on the workshop that allows you to remove non-tribal holdings if you are tribal, or change them into different types if you are feudal. As tribal ones goal is to go feudal. holdings can be either tribes,castles,cities,temples,nomadic holdings. Open the game using that shortcut to launch in debug mode. Then its going feudal to allow the use of economic buildings and. Unlike CK2 the different holding are barely any different as all holdings can build the same things with a few. Currently the chance of the event firing is 20 percent. Military buildings specialize in increasing your levy, strengthening stationed Men At Arms, or providing other military advantages. los tomatos. Indeed, a feudal holder of a tribe of a different religion gets the "wrong holding. There is a button that can replace what kind of. You can "abdicate" by losing to a rebellion. Instead I grant these counties to unlanded characters, so they can take the "adopt feudalism through liege" decision that just cost prestige for them. High Tribal Authority (Level 3) Direct Vassal Opinion: -10; Titles can be revoked; Vassals can be retracted. . How can you tell if a culture is tribal or feudal? See full list on ck3. You cant build in it because the game encourages you to move forward with feudal/to make feudal your government type. As mentioned by others here, you need an empty castle holding which is not the county capital. There's some limits - some buildings, it's every second level at tribal gains a level at feudal - but the cost is based on prestige, which you don't really need to worry about too much at lower levels. The problem is that after feudalising the tribe I cannot build any city nor temple. Feudalize+ changes the logic for upgrading tribal holdings to castles to be more logical than base game behavior. CK3 Building and Holding Guide. There is a simple way players can become Feudal in CK3. Select the troops and move your mouse over the provinces you would be. I went and checked another of my tribal holdings with my main (ruler) culture, still can't upgrade with the same reason. To construct new Holdings, you have to upgrade to Feudal or Clan, which can take a while- especially if you culture-blob in a low-tech zone. #5. (Though it might help you. But NONE of the techs say anything about constructing holdings. Guy shows up at my court asking to be a knight. Reply. Restore the papacy. Console commands. Try to revoke a title from a vassal, surrender, and tada you have abdicated for your heir. The hardest ones to achieve would be to get all tribal inventions and to reform the faith (those are the ones that take longer and will hold you back for a while). Happy Anniversary to the entire Crusader Kings family! Hard to believe it has already been a year since launch!. The only rulers in CK3 that can change their government are Tribal rulers. how do I get my tribal vassals to go feudal without an organized religion? Turn your vassals feudal by revoking their titles, feudalizing one of their counties, giving them that one county (which makes them a feudal vassal), then giving them the remainder of the counties to feudalize. As a short summary, you NEED, before going feudal, to have : -6k gold , which is the bare minimum. Like Welsh. Tribal holdings cannot be constructed. Yeah I know, but my counties are empty and I don't have an option to build tribe holdings even though I got the innovation. Look for the shields on the map. I'll have to double check when I save up. ago. Engage in courtly intrigue, dynastic struggles, and holy warfare in mediæval Europe, Africa, the Middle East, India, the steppes and Tibet. As they acquire gold, they'll feudalize their counties over time. One thing I noticed is it's way easier to spread your religion and culture if your still tribal. 3 Commit:. If A, you have to build a new castle and it will takeover as the primary holding since it is your correct type of holding and you can create a vassal for the old. g. You get - 25 opinion with all vassals of that holding type when it's done. How to use Crusader Kings 3 cheats. For nomads, empty holding slots are vital, as they determine the maximum population of the nomadic clan, which in turn determines the manpower available for horde troops. It does have an impact when you Feudalizing, which higher development = higher chance of city and temple holdings spawning. Asking the Head of Faith. Anyway, what do you have to do is capture a tribal county and move your capital there, then give away all your feudal counties to your vassals. Tribal holdings cost to upgrade and if you give them to someone without land they become a chief and you get 30 point penalty for wrong government type. No you cant destroy it, maybe with mods. "contains tribal holding" warning when trying to construct new holdings (castles/temples/cities) Description When trying to construct a new holding in my realm (with the proper techs) there is a warning for the requirment "county of [insert county here] has a tribal holding" despite being feudal . Tribal realms are unaffected by development, and cause non-tribal realms to have lower supply limits in their lands, making them a tougher nut to crack, but. Forgiving: can consume a hook to lose stress and gain opinion. So I started with a tribe and conquered my way to a massive empire. I want to control one, not BE one. I got that too,i was at the beginning of the game in a county in Austria in 1066 (so absolutely feudal) and i had 70 gold, i went to see how much i needed to build a new holding and the tooltip said i couldn't build anything because i didn't have enough gold (true) and i had. Engage in courtly intrigue, dynastic struggles, and holy warfare in mediæval Europe, Africa, the Middle East, India, the steppes and Tibet. when you highlight them with your cursor. Develop your tribe's lands: settle new villages! Features: Unlocks the ability for the player to build new tribal baronies. With the Conclave DLC, absolutism (all council laws in ruler's favor) gives +2 to demesne limit. I asked ChatGPT to generate some CK3 memes using DALLE-3 for me. Castle Town 2. You can build a tribal holding in a county that has other types of holdings, such as castles, cities or churches. Anyway, I had another county with a city, a temple and a tribal holding and still couldn't upgrade with the same reason. This only works if Ironman mode is deactivated. Crusader Kings is a historical grand strategy / RPG game series for PC, Mac, Linux, PlayStation 5 & Xbox Series X|S developed & published by Paradox Development Studio. This debuff is applied to all counties individually. Upgrading a tribal holding requires 200 gold and 400 prestige. How do i turn this Tribe holding into a castle? Pretty new to the game, but from what I understand, I believe that there are two scenarios here. Now if you improved your tribal holdings, you'll get some buildings to starts with when going Feuldal/Clan, and also temple and city when possible. Counties are the smallest kind of domain you can hold in Crusader Kings 3, and as such you'll need to manage them carefully. However, these rulers will need to meet some special requirements. It's Dejure capital of both the Duchy and Kingdoms of the same name. Llyagushen Oct 14, 2016 @ 10:18am. 3. Unlocked building slots are not lost if the county's culture is changed to one that has fewer building slots innovations. Crusader Kings III: 1 Year in CK3. Destroy and Convert Settlement is a small mod that allows you, under some conditions, to destroy or convert to another type your Holdings. The other titles you are holding (or that could be created) will be created on succession and passed to the other heirs as per the. There should be a button on the right side of the main holding icon that, if clicked, gives the option "demolish this tribal holding and build a new one", and then you can choose to build a city through that menu, if you have enough gold and the tribal holding is upgraded sufficiently. However if you select the primary holding (the castle) there is a small circular icon to the left of the picture of the castle (under where it says supply limit) which you click. My prefered building order is trading outpost -> longhouse -> war camp -> palisade but whatever you require the most should work. Lady Aelora. save. Last edited by Nea's Nose ; Mar 17, 2021 @ 8:18pm. Aviaries. HOWEVER - tribal retinues retain their prestige maintenance status in perpetuity. You will now have to wait for your troops to mobilize, as they would for a normal war. #1. 149 comments. They simply don't have the life span for it with everything you need to do. Just give each one of those to someone (that isn't already your vassal). Get high enough tribal authority to have vassals settle "as tribal or clan" and when they do make a castle revoke that particular title. So now the county is marked as feudal, but the holding itself is still tribal/ there are also no cities and temples. Since he is fuedal, he can’t control tribal governemts directly without problems. I cover development, innovations, army building, and reforming into the f. But NONE of the techs say anything about constructing holdings. Add the ending ". You can see it has a city as county capital but it's held by a duke (noble) so it's the wrong type of holding. Just give each one of those to someone (that isn't already your vassal). It's one county out of your whole holdings, and at tribal you're gonna be getting a butt ton of troops and tax out of your vassals to make up for one inefficient. There are also Muslim tribals in the duchy of. I'm also going to add the county of Pagan in Burma, as it's a 6 holding county with a Buddhist Temple special building slot. - Destroyers of Civilization tradition can only be adopted if the culture is still in the tribal era. 2. It's probably doable to stay tribal for the entire game, especially the way the AI typically plays. The transition out of tribal to feudal isn't necessarily easy and you can probably find tips on YT or other sources. alliances don't feel quite right and there are some perverse incentives (e. Level 2 buildings cost 250 Gold. The maximum penalty is 87. As a non-tribal character, tribal holdings give you neither levies nor taxes. After all, value of a tribal holding depends solely on amount of empty space and bonuses this space provides. If there's no castle, then you'd need to build one then give the barony away, if the castle holder is your vassal, you can try to revoke the castle title, make it the primary holding, then give the barony away. if the county doesn't already have a castle, temple, and city you can't build a second castle. He started as haestein, even. To honor his memory please continue his legacy and please credit him, from his sister. What is the process. If you hold the county yourself it will cost you 500 gold to feudalise it and all of its buildings will be destroyed. Tribal holdings are very useful for rulers with the tribal government, but cannot be properly governed by anyone else. 5-8 18 times more man, fort level >8 dont assault unless garrison is empty then 22 times more man, and same for Constantinople but with 27 times more man. Bowmen counter Footmen and the AI usually buys Footmen, especially if its a Tribal AI. The majority of buildings come in 8 levels and need the same innovation as the holding level they require. unless it is the capital of that nomad. after these. The buildings which provide "troops" only increase your amount of levys; and levys are ♥♥♥♥ in CK3; now Knights (a sort of hero-type special troop, scarce in numbers) and "men at arms" (restyled retinues) are the thing. What’s more, hunting grounds gives light cavalry bonuses to the holder of its holding. Once a county has feudalized in CK3, it will remain so unless you personally hold it as an extra holding other than your. Tribe holdings represent the entire tribal population of that province (and as a result benefit from having empty holding slots in the province) so building more doesn't make sense. But tribal cap out way earlier than feudal in terms of power and you will need to be feudal or clan to get better tech, better man-at-arms better buildings. You could just build a temple holding on your own and it gets automatically appointed a priest to hold it. com How do they convert to Fuedal holdings. Instead grant them to a courtier or family member to create tribal rulers under you. You can really go to town with taking land fast and brutally. The holder of the barony receives all of the barony's domain tax. Tribal holdings in a feudal kingdom don't automatically upgrade with your capital, and you suffer -30 relations penalty with any tribal vassals. Kill List, Attach to Army, Force Realm Priest Endorsement, Tribal Walls / Tribal Holding variants, Reworked Dynasty UI, Improved Battle UI, Player Coat of Arms Graphics, Rally Point Improvements. No you cannot destroy or replace entire holdings. I don't see an option to raze the barony and replace it with a tribal holding, nor do I see an option to build a new tribal holding in the empty land slot. BUG? Showing 1 - 6 of 6 comments. With tribal, you can't get into a succession that helps you keep your lands together, so you. Outgoing Mod. If the Mongol Invasion was not turned off in game rules and a player with realm size of 100 is not Culture Head of the Mongol culture then a married couple will eventually spawn: Temujin and Borte. In particular, your county control and development are vital for the output of both gold and levies, so it's well worth improving them where you can.